this sub has completely lost the plot on what “shoegaze” even is.

i’m not a full blown shoegaze purist/ elitist by any means but upwards of 80% of the songs posted here, snippets of members music, recommendations etc.. they’re all literally just different variations of alternative music with a tinge of reverb and delay. i don’t think just those two effects define this sub-genre, and it’s gotten to the point where i don’t think actual members of this sub can even differentiate between what is and isn’t actually shoegaze anymore lol.

i don’t think a shoegaze song has to necessarily be a Loveless style song, but i mean it’s gotten to the point where i’m listening to these tracks and saying “this is just hardcore, or this is just pop punk, or this is just indie rock, etc.” it’s not even as close as like dreampop anymore it’s genuinely just something different with a kiss of plate verb on the vocals and guitars.

anyone else feeling this way?